Pustolovina: adventure in Serbian

Friday, November 10, 2006

Bread and Circuses

The first half of my yesterday was consumed with bread making. To mark The International Day against Fascism and Anti-Semitism, Women and Black had a vigil followed by a potluck party. The dishes were all Lebanese. I don’t really know why that was decided upon. Maybe it was an attempt to be fair and balanced. Regardless, it was delicious.

It was my first attempt at cooking with Serbian yeast, which comes in a paste, about the consistency of softened butter. The bread wasn’t Hoda’s quality, but I was satisfied and I brought the recipe to a coworker today.

Yesterday evening, I met up with a few Americans that sent an e-mail to Women in Black about a month ago, saying they would be traveling through Belgrade, wanting to know more about the organization. It turns out that they are circus people. They had been volunteering in Kosovo with some sort of reconciliation-through-circus-skills initiative.

As we were walking along the pedestrian street, we happened across some circus punks (I never knew there was such a thing) that they knew. These two guys were putting on a show—impressive juggling (fire, lots of balls), some acrobatics, etc. I hadn’t seen juggling in years—it was really entertaining. Watching the little kids around us get excited was almost as good as the show itself.

When sitting in a park and drinking non-alcoholic spritzer (if there is such a thing) was cut short by a downpour, we sought refuge at A&T’s nearby flat. A’s visiting brother does magic, so the evening ended with card tricks, magically twisted forks, a levitating 500 dinar note, potato juggling and much discussion of the juggling and magic subcultures, which I have learned are very curious places.

18 Comments:

  • At 1:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Anti-semitism in Belgrade? That's got to be a joke...
    There are about ten Jews in Belgrade,(and Soros foundation emplys most of them, so they should know) and Serbs don't even have a word for racism, they use the foreign word instead. I guess it's considered "trendy"... Don't those "women in black" have anything better to do? How about all those children roaming the streets begging in BG? Or people dying from starvation in Serbia? It would be very "humane" to help them... but unfortunatelly, it doesn't sound "grand"...

     
  • At 7:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    there are approximately 3000 Jews in Belgrade, me being one of them, and I`m not employed in any of Soros` companies
    it was international anti-fascist day and I see nothing wrong about Women in black`s protest

     
  • At 11:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    milica is right!

     
  • At 1:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    OK Marta,
    No one's disputing the importance of the anti-fascist day, but I'm afraid you've missed my point entirely...
    There are far more pressing isues in Serbia than what the "Women in Black" deem important. From what I've seen, "the women in black" specialize in highly coreographed and dramatic outings that are considered "in". What about helping the poor and people in need regardless of their origin? (we've heard about them helping anyone and everyone except the people of Serbia.) Does that make any sense to you? As you well know, there are thousands of refugees from Croatia and Bosnia who live miserable lives in Serbia, yet they don't concern "the women" at all, and neither do the Serbian women who were the victims of rape... very nice and very fair...
    True charity is undiscriminating, and something here definitely stinks.
    I've never noticed any kind of Anti-semitism in Serbia, furthermore, Serbs love to compare themselves to the Jews, because of the obvious historical parallels and genocide they experienced (no one talks about it though, and Jasenovac, the most brutal concetration camp in Europe, is all but forgotten).
    Also, the Serbs, to my knowledge, weren't fascist, whereas as you well know, Croats were.

     
  • At 2:28 PM, Blogger rachel said…

    Unfortunately, anti-semitism does exist in Belgrade: http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-
    article.php?yyyy=2006&mm=08&dd=
    28&nav_id=36356&fs=1

    And The Protocols of the Elders of Zion are on sale on the street everywhere.

    Also unfortunately, there are many problems in the world and in Belgrade specifically. No organization can tackle all of them. Women in Black has picked an area to work on and I think their efforts are admirable. The fact that they are not helping the homeless/preventing climate change/curing cancer/etc. doesn't detract from that.

    (And they have done many projects with Serb women refugees.)

     
  • At 2:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    There are lots of pressing isues in Serbia, including racism. Chauvinism and xenophobia are on the rise. There is plenty of evidence about this, and literally all non-Serbs are targeted. Educating about human rights (and rising public awareness) is as important as helping starving children.

     
  • At 6:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    That incident regarding the Jewish men was misreported, I read from fellow blogger bganon.

    He said the incident happened in a bar, and that the 2 Serbs had hair and were not skinheads.

    He said one was an American Serb who claims the Jewish man grabbed or touched his rear and he reacted to that and they fought.

    So it appears a case of a rebuffed homosexual pass.

    No one has the right to promote false allegations just because they are angry and don't get their way.

     
  • At 8:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Or Rachel,
    no one mentioned curing cancer or helping the homeless but rather the war REFUGEES. I've also mentioned WOMEN that were raped in Bosnia and Croatia, surely, that's WIB domain?
    You sound very calous for someone who works for a humanitarian organization...
    Your "charity" seems rather selective.

     
  • At 5:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Siboney,
    Do you expect to get a "brownie point" or a "golden star" for chiming in? What are you talking about? There was ONE incident in Belgrade involving a Jewish man grabbing another (heterosexual) man's behind and getting punced for it. I would have defended myself the same way, reghardless of the person's religion or sexual orientation, if it infringed on my human rights.
    Do gay people have more rights than the ones that aren't gay?
    You've sunken very deep in "political correctness" and "intolerant liberalism" of the worst kind.

     
  • At 9:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Milica,

    Should we be talking like that here, on this blog? By the way, this particular "grabbing incident" does not make any difference.

     
  • At 6:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Should we be talking like that here, on this blog? By the way, this particular "grabbing incident" does not make any difference.

    It does make a difference because it shows how people will/can abuse the racism/anti-semitic allegation for other reasons and ulterior motives. It shows the reaching by the rights groups in Serbia to place blame unnecessarily just to blame Serbs and please their masters (those funding them).

    I remember there was another case, around 6 years ago of a Roma who was killed in Serbia. The rights groups pounced on that and used it against Serbs. It turned out, however, that it was another Roma who murdered him, not Serbs.

    There was no formal apology, nor nothing on the rights groups pages on the incident after the truth came out.

    Seems the Rights Groups don't care about the truth only pushing their cause, blaming and annoying Serbs while ignoring the "elephant in the living room" problems - such as starving/malnourished children and adults, lack of home, Serb's rights, pollution/depleted uranian, hypocrisy of the west, etc.

    And nutrition for children is much more important than this raising of awareness in a country - Serbia - in which all minorities have freedom of movement, right to jobs, safety ALREADY. There aren't any Croats or Muslim in Serbia being killed by Serbs - even during the war years and before.

    You don't seem to understand the importance of nutrition in children and how lack of nutrition can lead to LIFE LONG problems of development (mental and physical), general health and disease resistance, lifespan, etc.

    These awareness campaigns don't really do much but brainwash and annoy people while ignore the true problems.

    PS How many Iraqi civilians did the US kill and maim today?

     
  • At 12:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    All I have to say is this --

    I am utterly disgusted by the prevalent "political correctnes" and liberal "mambo-jumbo." At first, I had an impression that Rachel was trying to do "some good" for the people in whose country she's residing at the moment.
    The very suspect "violent language" theory, the absolute reverence for gay people, and complete disregard for the rest --the refugees, the rape victims (helping whom she equates to "preventing the climate change" and "finding a cure for cancer...")convinced me otherwise.
    In a country where people are starving, gay rights and (non-existant) anti-semitism (as we've learned ther eare 3000 Jews in a city of 2 million people) seem more important to her.
    WIB are a joke, and a very sick and selfish joke...If I were you Rachel, I'd be ashamed... I'd rather adopt a religion, then at least I'd have an excuse for believing in dogma...

    I don't think I'll be reading this blog anymore...It's too dogmatic, to intellectually limited, and too bigoty to Serbian people. Give my regards to all of your co-workers who fed you all those stories about "klanje" and tell them they can't speak their own language properly.

     
  • At 3:44 PM, Blogger rachel said…

    I just reemerged from a few days of illness to find all of this...

    My head is still a bit foggy and there is so much to respond to. I'm not quite sure where to start.

    I'm a bit flattered that people bother to respond to my words, regardless of how [far from] correct they think they are.

    I stand by my opinion that anti-semitism is a problem here. There's a swastika painted on the wall of my building. I have a Jewish friend who is hesitant to reveal her faith to others. These are not good things.

    Malnutrition, rape victims, etc. are issues as well. I never said they weren't. I think constructing any sort of hierarchy is false. Every problem deserves to have lots of people working on it. Unfortunately, I am only one person and cannot do everything. I made my commitment to Women in Black and will do all I can to advance their cause.

    and in response to all of the other charges against me:
    - I don't think I ever advanced a 'violent language' theory. If something I wrote was interpreted in such a way, it was unitentional. Words about violence just tend to be more interesting than words about clothing.
    - Yes, the US government continues to kill innocents in Iraq. It is immoral and I am ashamed that my government is doing such things. I vote. I write letters. I marched. I registered other people to vote. I do what I can to stop that.
    - and I do love the gays. Some of my favorite people are gay. [that sounds suspiciously like 'some of my best friends are gay.' What is a way to word this without sounding condescending and token-izing?] I'm not going to alter any percieved promotion of 'the gay agenda.' I'm all for the gay agenda.

     
  • At 1:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "There's a swastika painted on the wall of my building. I have a Jewish friend who is hesitant to reveal her faith to others. These are not good things."

    How long has that swastika been there? And why don't you or your organization do things like clean it up or paint over it. That kind of activity would be more constructive (than dancing around in black outfits) - along with a general clean up of trash and fresh coats of paint, planting of trees, etc.

    If anti-Semiticism is getting worse since the Women in Black organization came to be, then it shows it is not a solution to the problem and may be exacerbating things by ANNOYING people.

    As for your friend, it doesn't sound like she is suffering from lack of freedom of movement, home, job and other opportunities as everyone else.

    Plus, there are known Jews in Belgrade and they are living safely. There are known Jewish centers which aren't destroyed. Many Jewish people have intermarried with Serbs, so I don't think the anti-semitic degree in Serbia is any worse than in most places in Eastern or Western Europe.

    There's been several attacks against Jewish cemeteries, synagogues, and people in other European countries - France, Britain, Poland, etc.

     
  • At 3:09 PM, Blogger rachel said…

    Just because anti-semitism is a more visible problem other places doesn't mean it is not a problem here.

    The rabbi recieves regular death threats. That is a problem.

    And I refuse to accept your blame-the-messenger logic. Raising awareness does not cause the problems that awareness is being raised about. People's annoyance at the occassional vigil does not cause anti-Semitism.

     
  • At 4:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    yeah, that rabbi receives threats from the Muslims in Serbia, as well as in France, and other European countries, certainly not from the Serbs.

     
  • At 4:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    By the way, "kundak" and "kundaciti," -- beating someone with the but of a gun is Turkish word...ask any linguist. The man who wrote that book just wanted to make a "quick buck" without knowing any history, politics or even the language of the country...

     
  • At 4:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    hey Serbs are not nazi,croats,muslims,albanians,slovenians,bulgarians,hungarians but bnot Serbs.1941-45 about 2 milion Serbs was be killd

     

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